Bungi Bill

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  If you had to

  by rolliepollie in

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  if you had to follow one religion, what would it be and why?.

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  Bungi Bill

  The Reverend Harley Davidson's Church of the Righteous Hog.

  Seriously, what a hell of a choice to present a person with. I reckon I would shoot myself first!
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  Why did One of Jewish Cultures Most Important (but not named in the Bible) Influences Die?

  by fulltimestudent in

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  who is that influence?

  why alexander the great, of course.

  why was he such an important influence on the development of judaism (and later on an influence on early christianity)?.

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  One other notable person who is thought to have suffered GBS was Franklin Roosevelt.

  At the time, FDR was diagnosed as having polio. However, it is now thought more likely that what left him paralysed from the waist down was Guillain-Barre Syndrome.

  Of course, like Alexander the Great, nobody will ever know for sure. The only way to have been certain that Roosevelt's illness was polio would have been for a sample of his spinal fluid to have been tested. That was never done - and of course, never will be done!
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  Anyone know of elders talking private KH matters to wifes?

  by Tobyjones262 in

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  i knew of several elders who would tell their wife's everything that happened in a committee meeting.

  he is still and elder and very old but i doubt he has changed.

  we used to call him.

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  Bungi Bill

  None of this is in any way surprising.

  The majority of the human species is born with a certain genetic defect, consisting of a mechanical interlock between the ear drum and the tongue. The slightest sound striking the ear drum automatically causes the tongue to flap about.

  This genetic trait is particularly noticeable in those types who are drawn to the JW religion!
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  What Are Your Rights?

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  rights seem to be everywhere nowadays.

  say hello to someone in the wrong way and you've violated 101 of their human rights.

  people imagine they have the right to all sorts of things - food, healthcare, housing, internet ... so many things are labelled basic rights and then you get onto their human rights - a favourite of the do-nothing bodies such as the un to declare.

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  Pretty much everything else is determined by who has the more effective weapon.

  As my late father was wont to say "You are free to do as you are told!"
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  "This system will probably be over in about 5 years"

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't think i shared this story yet, it's strange and although i did a little detective work trying to figure out who said what and when i never found out much, big surprise, jehovah's witnesses love their secrets as we all know... but i thought other posters might find this interesting both in and of itself, because of what an elder told me one sunday back in 2011, and because of what it could imply as to high-ranking jehovah's witnesses prophesying the date of armageddon.

  specific dates went out the window in 1975, although governing body helper ken flodin hinted at 2040 in a talk uploaded to jw.org a couple years back, and the governing body hinted at 2034 in a watchtower back in the 90s.

  but it might be, just might, that more specific date-setting still goes on behind closed doors in certain circuits.... so after i went to "meetings" and talked to witnesses for a couple years at a rural congregation in the eastern united states an elder pulled me aside one service into the vestibule at the hall, in other words, into a private area where no one would overhear us.

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  Nothing like wanting to have it both ways!

  In the early 1980s, when the WTS began another campaign to promote "pioneering", the Circuit Overseer posed the question "Can you see this system lasting another ten years?" His next sentence, though, carried the proviso "Please do not say the Circuit Overseer said Armegeddon was coming in less than ten years".

  Bloody hell!
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  Did you actually read the bible end to end?

  by Ultimate Axiom in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in my ten years as a witness i never read the whole bible end to end, what with four magazines a month, the book study, meetings and talk preparations, there just wasn’t the time.

  i knew all the important references to ‘prove’ the various jw doctrines, and the cherry picked chapters that help foster the idea that it’s a good book, but that’s not reading it.

  well after nearly forty years out, i decided i would do it.

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  I figured that as we were supposed to be offering the public "free" home bible studies, one ought to at least have read the thing from cover to cover. It was hard going, and I ended up using the New English Version. This at least is laid out like a book, instead of being broken up into individual verses. For me, that made it a little easier to follow!

  The results, though, were disappointing - although I now realise that I had completely unrealistic expectations about what it was going to achieve. Somehow, I imagined reading the bible was going to be a mind-altering experience of some kind!
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  The paranormal.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know that a lot of the people on here have turned their backs on the idea of a deity deciding that god does not exist.

  but what about the unseen spirit world generally such as poltergeists, jinns, voodoo, etc.

  if you have become agnostic, atheist, or just don't care since leaving, do you think that there are spirits out there or have you decided that is also hokum?

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  Bungi Bill

  Xanthippe,

  I believe you have summed the matter up perfectly!
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  More on South Africa

  by zeb in

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  https://killingfieldsmovie.com/.

  write to your mp help these people to leave to come to safety..

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  Are we forgetting how the white Dutch stole their farms from the indigenous people

  The reality is a little less clear-cut than one might imagine. Southern Africa's indigenous peoples were of a group of non-Bantu people, referred to collectively as the "Khoisan". This included the hunter-gatherer San people (formerly called "Bushmen") as well as the pastoralist Khoikhoi (formerly known as "Hottentots").

  At the time the Dutch established their 17th Century outpost in what is now Capetown, they found the district already settled by the Khoikhoi. These peoples had previously experienced displacement from the north by various migrations of the Bantu, and now faced similar displacement from Dutch settlement. Later, during a period known as the "Mfecane" (1815 - 1840) widescale warfare between various African (i.e. Bantu) tribes left large areas depopulated; and therefore ripe for settlement by others - including Trek-Boers from the Cape.

  Regarding the whole of Southern Africa, the matter of who did what to who is just a little bit more involved than merely the good guys wearing white hats / black skins and the bad guys wearing black hats / white skins. (For a starter, the "indigenous" people weren't black; but were more Asian in appearance).
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  Should calling someone 'Nazi' be made illegal?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. current

  a rabble-rouser called james goddard and a crowd of pro-brexit people called anna soubry 'nazi' recently.. the same crowd also called owen jones a few names.. i don't know these people but they seem to be unsavory people - they were certainly not behaving themselves.. the met police are looking into the matter, to see if the crowd did anything illegal.

  a journalist asked the police officer if calling someone 'nazi' is illegal.

  the officer said 'that's what we're looking into'.. first, this crowd behaved badly, no question.. what i find fascinating, though, is the speed of response from authorities.. calling people fascist or nazi has been going on for decades.

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  Bungi Bill

  Labels of are of no use to me. Liberal. Conservative. Right. Left. Far Right. Far Left. Center right. Centrist. Socialist. Fascist. Nazi.

  Same here!

  The only label I identify with is "Left Right Out".
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  Elders encouraging young ones to live in a fairy tale

  by Addison0998 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so one of the elders at the meeting tonight addressed to parents in his talk, “if your child wants to flip burgers for the rest of their life, because that’s is the only job that will allow them to have a schedule for full time service, you would want to support them the best you can.” he has also said told parents that if their children already have plans to go to college, even in the near future, they should try to do everything to stop them.

  there’s so much ranting i could do about that alone, but to make matters worse, this is a considerably well off man.

  he has his own buisness, a nice house with an additional room he added on last year, and him and his wife just took a lavish european trip.

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  we've always been discouraged from putting money in pension plans because we'd never need one.

  Oh, yes! That priceless gem of wisdom in the Awake of May, 1969, quoting Nathan Knorr himself and assuring our generation that we would "never grow old in this system of things." It was stated in so many words, AND put in writing.

  Let the apologists try weaseling out of that one!